AUGUST 2003

 
 


“We flew, we happy few,
we band of brothers”
Shakespeare. King Henry V



(Before we look at the articles submitted by Charley Yule, I would like to explain to our readers how this man was instrumental in founding the Ex-Air Gunner’s Association of Canada.)

All Ex-AG members will know, or know of, Charley Yule’s involvement in the Ex-AGs Association, but for those readers who have not had this privilege, here is a brief introduction in Charley’s words written in 1993.

“This Association (Ex-Air Gunner’s Association of Canada Inc.) began life in 1983 following a personal attempt at locating individuals with whom I had trained and served with in the RCAF. Ken Dicks, then of Thunder Bay, Ontario, saw my notice and enquiry in a service magazine and contacted me with the suggestion that we should try to ascertain how much interest there may be in forming an Association of War Time Air Force personnel who had trained for and earned the Gunner’s insignia.

We received support from some 27 former AGs and organized a meeting in Winnipeg to discuss a plan of action. Fred Ewatski, Winnipeg, agreed to act as President: Ken Dicks accepted the position of Vice President in charge of recruitment: with myself acting as Secretary Treasurer and Newsletter Editor.

It was agreed that one of our main objectives would be to do what we could to perpetuate the memory of Air Gunner, Pilot Officer Andrew Mynarski, VC.”

Thanks to Charley and these founding Members, the National Association membership grew rapidly.

The first Newsletter  (3 pages) lists the first paid up Members

John Wallace, Townsville Australia
John Donnely, Sicamous, B.C.
Robert Bake, Edmonton,AB
Al Schafer, Calgary, AB
Bert Trainor, Victoria Beach, MB
John Waters, ValCaron, ON
Gord Mask, Kingston, ON
Ken Dicks, Thunder Bay, ON
Charley Yule, Pine Falls, MB

In September 1989 John Moyles took over Editorship of the News Letter Short Bursts, and Charley maintained the position of Secretary Treasurer, “keeper of the Purse”, Custodian of the Rolls, and “Nerve Centre” until September 2000 when the National Association folded its tent and slipped away into the sunset. Charley is still active in publishing the Obituary section of Short Bursts Web Page and copying out this page for members of the Manitoba AGs Branch.

September 1990 Doug Penny, Calgary, replaced Fred Ewatski as President and served faithfully until the demise of the Association.

From nine members at the first meeting, the Association grew to a total of 1267 members. All this because one person had the foresight, and longing to reunite with men he had trained and flown with during WWII. Truly, a BAND OF BROTHERS.


Charley Yule

What can one say to the man who started it all.
A collective hand shake from all the Members of our Ex-Ags Association


Charley Yule
STAND BY FOR BROADCAST!!!

We receive current Updates of the Halifax NA337 Restoration Project at Trenton, ON from the Project Manager, Bill Tytula. LCol (ret'd).

The following is a very condensed summary of the Summer '03 Report:

This is a project in progress and the past winter and spring have been very productive.  NA337 is beginning to look her old self!

While much has been completed there is still much to do and we are faced from time to time with technical problems, one of which has been the attention received from the Radiation Safety Office lately.  Since the instrument dials of that era contained radium this has posed a difficulty to correct.
It would cost several thousand dollars to have it removed from each instrument and replaced by silk-screened non-lethal paints.  This problem is still being looked at.

The Outer Wings are nearing completion.  The Engines and Propellers are slowly coming together and will be installed as the rebuilding continues.

A Handley Page Hampden aircraft, partially restored and located at Langley, BC, has been offered to the Trenton Museum.  It too, will happen!

If you would like to help and/or become a member of the Halifax Aircraft Association and receive future Progress Reports, the Memberhip/Donation schedule is as follows:
 

PATRON $10,000.00
SPONSOR $  5,000.00
LIFE MEMBER/DONOR $     200.00
MEMBER/DONOR $       20.00
Address:
544 Yonge Street, Suite 1905
Willowdale, Ontario
Canada.  M2N 6J4
Tel/Fax: (416)227-0016
Email: jeff@halijeff.ca


As you will be aware, the National Air Gunner's Association of Great Britain is no longer operating as it used to be.  It has been decided, however, to continue with the Publication 'THE TURRET' under the direction of THE TURRET COMMITTEE.

The first issue, No. 1/87 2003 Summer Edition, has been received and consists of 16 pages of well presented information, photographs and illustrations

The 'Turret Committee', the principal Officers, are detailed on the Letterhead and were introduced to members present at the EGM at Elvington and minuted in the Editors Report in the winter issue (p3) and agreed at the first inaugural meeting of this new "Turret" Committee will serve for a period of one year.

Under the Chairmanship of Ken Wheeler, a new Constitution and Aims & Objectives has been struck.

All 'voluntary' donations, gifts, legacies, etc. for the current year to be sent to the Hon.Treasurer,

Ted Hitchcock,
3 The Banks, Bingham,
NG13 8BL, 01989 87646
If your name is not already on the mailing list it will be added to receive future editions of the publication to April 2004.  At that time an ANNUAL FEE to receive 3 issues per year will be established which would include all production costs and postage for Home and Overseas members.  This should allow THE TURRET to become self financing.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED - DO IT NOW!



Lieut. Sam Taylor,  1918


 TAYLOR FIELD REGINA SASKATCHEWAN

Taylor Field in Regina will be the location of the Canadian Football League Grey Cup Final, November 16, 2003.

When the expected 57,000 fans enter the stadium, with sleeping bags, mufflers, winter boots, thermoses, and fur lined whatever, to cheer for their respective team, will they think of where the name Taylor Field originated. Not likely.

Taylor Field is named after two brothers who flew with the Royal Naval Air Service in World War 1. Lieut. Sam Taylor of Regina joined the RNAS in 1918 and was shot down and killed that year. His Brother “Piffles” Taylor was also shot down and became a prisoner of war,

“Taylor Field” Regina’s Football Field is named after these two heroic flying pioneers.



BOOK REVIEW:

A new book entitled: THE BOMBER WAR - The Allied Air Offensive Against Nazi Germany, has come into our hands.  Copyright and Authored by Robin Neillands, published by The Overlook Press, Peter Mayer Publishers Inc., Woodstock, NY 12498 in 2001 (ISBN 1-58567-162-2) and is available at:

Woodstock, One Overlook Drive, Woodstock, NY 12498
www.overlookpress.com

And probably also available at a reliable bookstore.

This 406 page book, with several pages of notes, begins with the advent of the Bomber, 1914-1939 and follows all the events leading to the end of WWII.  The author seems to have researched thoroughly all aspects of the complexity of dealing with Leadership and the rapid technological advances on both sides of the conflict including; aircraft design; electronics; radar; tactics, etc. right up to and including the Moral Issues and the Bomber War, 1999-2000.

In my opinion it is a powerful book, and with 87 years of 'hindsight' is bound to stir memories and may alter the opinions of history buffs who were, or were not, personally involved in the events.

Reviewed by C. Yule

THE POWER OF THE PRESS

The following is taken from CONTACT the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum News Letter Vol. 20 Issue 1.

From the Toronto Star:

I am seeking information about the crash of a Lancaster Bomber on Jan. 13, 1945 in which a Canadian Pilot, William McMullen, stayed to the last to guide his crippled plane from the populous Darlington in North East England. His crew bailed out safely.

A crew member, John Feeley wrote to our paper in 2000 comparing the selfless actions of Pilot McMullen with the Concord  Pilot who avoided causing civilian deaths while crashing in Paris.

Apparently McMullen’s daughter has visited the crash site and her father’s grave. Her name was given as Dona Mae Barber of Ontario. Two years ago, for a client, I painted the Lancaster in which his Grandfather had flown. I hope to paint McMullen’s Lanc. I know that it was 428 Squadron, but hope to learn from one of your readers its identifying Squadron letters and if any operations had been flown.

I hold a fine arts degree and have exhibited at the Royal Academy of London. I am at

23 Campion Rd.,
Darlington Co. Durham.
DL1 2YY England
Phone 01325-358474

Thank-you.
J. White



March 3, 2003.

Dear Mr. White:

Re Lancaster crash Jan. 13, 1945 near Darlington Co. Durham. Your letter appeared in the Toronto Star newspaper today.

Reference to the privately produced Book of Remembrance, “They Shall Grow Not Old”, first printing 1992, 2nd. Printing 1996, page 509, gives Pilot Officer McMullen’s final Lancaster as  the number KB 793. I trust this will assist you in research for the painting that you plan to make.

The large reference book mentioned above is a project of the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum Inc. in Brandon, Manitoba. A labour of love, it’s completion is due to the devoted sacrifice by Les Allison and Harry Hayward whose research cost them years of intense effort including travel around the world in search of elusive records and burial sites Account mentioned reprinted below.

Wishing you every success in your own “labour of  love”.

Sincerely,

J. Fred Bailey
Orangeville, Ont., Canada



Account referred to by Fred Bailey:
MCMULLEN, WILLIAM STUART P/O(P) J90038. From Toronto, Ontario. Killed Jan, 13/45 age 33. #428 Ghost Squadron (Usque Ad Finem). The crew of Lancaster aircraft #KB 793 were returning from a cross country training flight to Middleton St George, England when the Port outer engine caught fire. The fire could not be extinguished and the propeller could not be feathered so P/O McMullen ordered his crew to bail out and he remained at the controls of the aircraft and guided it away from the city of Darlington, Durham, England. The aircraft with P/O McMullen still at the controls, crashed just outside the city. The city of Darlington honoured him by erecting a cairn and naming McMullen Road after him. P/O McMullen is buried in the Stonefall Cemetery, Wheatherby Road, Harrogate, Yorkshire, England.
You can see from the above the extensive research that went into incorporating in THEY SHALL GROW NOT OLD the circumstances surrounding each Canadian airman who fell during WWII.

If you would like a copy of this book, contact the Museum at:

CATP Museum,
Box 3, Grp.520, RR 5,
Brandon, Manitoba.
R7A 5Y5 Tel. (204)  727-2444
brandonman@msn.com


Lancaster



John Moyles
Extracts from Don “Red” Macfie correspondence

In the June 2003 Page Don “Red” Macfie told about getting leave but missing a flight out due to a “play by the rules” Accounting Officer. The plane crashed at Belfast with the loss of many lives. In his last letter Red writes:

“When my daughter downloaded the June Short Bursts she read about me missing that flight to Wig Bay. She phoned me to say, ‘Dad, if you had got on that flight I wouldn’t be here’. Solemn thought that.”  WHAT IF?”

Then he goes on to recount another “WHAT IF?”

“While training at Debert for Atlantic Ferry duty there was a crew with Pilot Bob McCallum from Parry Sound. As we were from the same local, I got to fly with him when his WAG was sick. Bob got to thinking I should be part of his crew and went to great lengths to have this done. Higher command stolidly refused the transfer. We got overseas and our crews remained intact. Our crew went to help form a new Canadian Squadron 423.  Bob and his crew went to RAF Squadron 119.

So now we open the book “They Shall Not Grow Old” and what do we see:

McCallum Albert Robert F/L Pilot
KIA Dec. 15, 1942 age 23 #119 Sqdn. R.A.F. Sunderland A/C missing from Anti-sub patrol over the Atlantic Ocean. An S.O.S. was received giving their position as SW of the Scilly Islands.”

With Bob went Bill Milne and Ray Law, room mates of mine at Debert, one New Zealander, six R.A.F., and another Canadian, P/O B.D. King.

“WHAT IF?”

In an attempt to encourage readers to send in their “WHAT IF?” stories, I will inflict you with two of my own.

I graduated as a Wireless Air Gunner in November 1941 and, complete with train pass to Halifax, meal tickets, and berth instructions on the troop ship, was on embarkation leave in Regina. A telegram arrived ordering me to report to Western Air Command in Victoria B.C. From there it was up to Prince Rupert 7 BR Sqdn. arriving December 15, eight days after Pearl Harbour. Two years later I arrived in the UK, but by then the horrendous casualty rates experienced by aircrew during 1942/43 had abated,

“WHAT IF?”

While on troop transport flying out of India we were proceeding, at night, from Karachi, India, (now Pakistan) up the Persian Gulf to Basra. Our crew consisted of two Pilots, a Flight Engineer, and myself as Wireless Operator (no navigator). Pay load - British soldiers from Burma.

We headed out over the Gulf of Oman and then proceeded up the Persian Gulf. The weather closed in and we were soon experiencing heavy storm conditions.

The Pilots were having trouble gaining altitude and contending with a dysfunctional compass. The Skipper asked me to get a fix. When I swung the loop, due to adverse atmospherics the only station I could get was a commercial station 150 degrees (to the rear) at Karachi and the station directly ahead in Baghdad. At least I thought it was Baghdad as I could not understand the language. The resulting “fix” left a lot to be desired. I plotted what I thought to be a course to Basra and gave it to the Skipper suggesting that it was not too reliable. I then went back to my wireless set and started bashing out an S.O.S. No reply. Some of the passengers sensed that something was wrong so I had to put on a bold front and boast that we had the best Skipper in the whole damn Air Force – not to worry, we flew through this stuff all the time.

Knowing there were mountains immediately to starboard gave us some concern. Suddenly we broke free of the storm and into bright moonlight. We were flying down a deep gorge with mountains rising immediately off each wingtip! We located Basra and landed without further incident.

“WHAT IF?”

Just this week I was discussing this with a friend who had been a front-line infantryman in the Italian Campaign. He told me about the time his patrol were moving along a road at night trying to locate enemy positions. They were crawling along by a hedge when he heard a “chink”. He thought nothing of it at the time, but later when they were relieved, he went into the mess tent, removed his mess kit from the back of his webbing and poured tea into the metal cup. As fast as the tea went in it flowed out onto the ground. He then realized the cause of the sound. A bullet had passed through his webbing and mess kit putting a hole in his cup. Two inches lower it would have cut through his spinal column.


Ron Bramley
(Ron is Editor of THE TURRET the RAF Ex-Air Gunner’s newsletter to which Charley Yule makes reference above.)

Old Comrades: Ron Bramley (left) and Bill Bailey
Ron also served in Burma and will be attending
The Burma Bomber’s Reunion, Niagara Falls, Ont.
Sept. 29, 2003

Group’s Salute to Gunner’s Last Post
By Andy Smart
The Evening Post. Nottingham, UK.
Monday April 7, 2003

It is nearly 60 years since they last flew in anger. Strapping themselves into the claustrophobic turrets of Lancasters and Blenheims, Beauforts, and Liberators, the air gunners provided the sting in the tail to keep the fighters at bay.

Those that are left are now aged either side of 80, and time is taking its toll. That is why the National Air Gunners Association, formed in 1949 to bring old comrades together, is winding up. Its last official function was held n Nottingham, home of one of the most thriving branches.

But as Nottingham Secretary and national vice-president Bill Bailey, a veteran of 40 missions in Liberators, explained: “Members came from Eatbourne and Newcastle and from South Wales. But they are getting on a bit. It is asking a lot to expect them to travel across the country to meetings.”

So, in the Westminister Hotel, around 60 old flyers got together for the last time as official group.

Individual branches across the country – there are around 25 – will continue although they will simply be known as the Air Gunners. They want to carry on a long as possible. They have a lot of memories to share, a lot of friends who did not make it through those dark days of war. Of 55,888 aircrew killed in Bomber Command, in the war, 28,350 were air gunners.

Ron Bramley, another Nottingham member and editor of the Association quarterly magazine The Turret, is now 82 but he has no intentions of giving up. During his days in Beauforts with a torpedo bomber squadron, he crash landed twice, got shot up “no end of times” and admits “being frightened to bloody death” before adding ruefully, “I never shot anything down.”

He was one of the lucky ones. “The chances of surviving one tour in a torpedo squadron were 17%, two tours it was 3%. We suffered terrific losses,” he said. Little wonder such comradeship continues.

The Nottingham group will continue to meet on the first Thursday of the month in West Bridgeford Royal British Legion Club. Any ex-air gunners interested can get more information from Ron Bramley on (0115)956-9266.

Upwards of 100,000 young men, all volunteers flew with Bomber Command in the war. More than half were killed. By 1944 the average age of its aircrew was 23. Some were flying on ops before their 20th birthday. Some wee killed before their 19th. In some squadrons, weeks, even months passed without a single crew surviving to complete its tour of 30 ops. Although Ron does not mention it, no RAF bomber crew ever declined to fly.


TED HACKETT

I call these pictures "Down Memory Lane".  The first two are of Betty's Bar and the De Grey Rooms in the city of York.  They will be familiar places to many AGs who served with 6 Group. There was a mirror behind the bar in Betty's that was autographed by hundreds, if not thousands, of aircrews but, when my son visited the place he was told that the mirror was in storage.  The first thing he was asked when they found out he was a visiting Canadian was, "did you come to see the mirror?"


The second single photo offers proof that Gremlins did indeed exist and two of them are shown here harassing two airmen in the cockpit of a Norseman.  On the right is WO Ernie Hackett and on the left Sgt George Martin.  The incident took place at RCAF Station Patricia Bay, BC circa 1941 or 1942.

Gremlins

Sgt George Martin ~ WO 'Ernie Hackett


BRANCH REPORTS

Northern Alberta Branch

In June the Air Gunners got together with the Wartime Aircrew Association for a barbecue at the Pioneer Log Cabin in Edmonton.   The cabin is situated on the south side with a view overlooking the river valley.  A feed of steaks and chicken breasts, with all the trimmings was enjoyed by all and it was washed down with beer or wine from the well stocked bar. There was a good crowd of members and wives on hand.  We were among friends because a good number of AGs were, or still are, members of the Wartime Aircrew Assoc.  It did rain just as we sat down to eat but it soon stopped and the sun came out and we enjoyed a beautiful evening.  Judging by the comments of our members at the July luncheon meeting this little get together will take place again.  Who knows, this may become a regular affair. Our regular luncheon meetings are well attended, 15 to 20 members and at least 10 Ladies. We now have a large room on the second floor of the Legion to ourselves complete with bar.  A special menu has been produced for us and there are two nice ladies whose job it is to look after our needs.

The Greenwood family is holding another chicken barbecue for our members and guests on August 09 and I will send you a report and hopefully a few photos, after that.

Ted Hackett
tedgene@telusplanet.net


Northern Saskatchewan Branch

President Smokey Robson phoned to say that their Branch has approximately 20 to 22 members out for each monthly luncheon.
This contact is much appreciated.
Ross Hamilton

(Ed. Just as we were about to go to Press we received a parcel of articles from Ross. The following contribution appeared in the AIRFORCE Oct. 1996, but it is apropos for this Page)

HERE’S TO THE LAST ONE TO DIE …

During the late Summer of 1981, I was attached for duty at the Edinburgh Tattoo. In a salute to veterans, one of the opening acts was a quartet of Scots Guardsmen harmonizing in song, as they raised a pint to toast not only their fallen Comrade, but their survivors as well. The name of the ditty was repeated in the chorus, “… here’s to the last one to die!”

Today I can’t recall the words, even after listening to it through the 30-odd evening and matinee performances of the Tattoo. But I do recall that far from being a melancholy dirge, I felt that this song from the days of Queen Victoria’s army actually painted a erective picture, and the spirit of the song applies as well to many of us; today’s Veterans.

The sad reality, of course, is that like it or not, we all must die some day. Just take a few minutes to wade through the two pages of “Last Postings” in each issue of Airforce Dwell a moment on each name and think about the stories untold, experiences unshared, deeds unrecorded. For example is there anybody living who played a part in the recovery, at wars end, of the various Luftwaffe  warplanes that are now displayed in the National Air Museum?   Nowhere is the RAF credited for this unique collection, yet we know that somebody in air force blue had the foresight to act at the right time, the right place….

How quickly our air force heritage can slip away if we don’t make an effort to preserve it by putting our personal anecdotes to paper for our survivors and succeeding generations.

I was enjoying a beer with some other aging vets in the Gloucester Street RCAF Mess here in Ottawa when a veteran  Air Division Sabre jockey mentioned that his father, a WW11 vet, had passed on. He recalled that years previous he and his son were on a long car drive and the grandson asked his grandpa about his war time experiences. The old man responded, and over the next several miles reminisced openly. “It took my own son to ask the right questions of my own father to get him to open up. Somehow, in those days it just didn’t seemed manly to pry. If my son hadn’t done it, we never would have come to know one of the most important periods of Dad’s life.”

Jim Green of Celista B.C. still uses his wartime nickname and is known as “The Rigger.” Wisely, he made the effort to write his memoirs about his wartime experiences in Britain and later with the Burma Star squadrons, as well as two decades of post-war active service with Air Transport Command. His writings and photos are superbly organized, and make a stack two inches thick. To Editor Vic Johnson, the stuff is pure gold, and a valuable reference work which will used to flesh out other stories and anecdotes.. “The Rigger” put it together for his children and grandchildren. We are fortunate that he shared it with us.

Whether or not you submit it to Airforce  (or Short Bursts) please follow
“The Rigger’s” example: take the time to write down our Air Force experiences. And, yes, we would like to share in your memories.

In the mean time, mentally join me in a quiet toast: “here’s to the last one to die.”


OBITUARY

The following Obituaries have been forwarded by TED HACKETT of Edmonton, AB:

MILLER, W.J. #0628, CALGARY, AB:  "Red" was born June 17, 1923 and passed away during June, 2003.  He enlisted in the RCAF in Saskatoon July 1941 and attended #2 Manning Depot in Brandon, MB.  Selected for Gunnery Training he received his Brevet at #7 BGS, Paulson, MB.  Overseas he was posted to #1656 HCU Lindhome with further training at #7 Advanced Gunnery in Stormy Downs, Wales.   He served on operations with #103 RAF Squadron, Elsham Wolds.  Service No. J85264.  He is survived by his wife Dorothy.

SMITH, D.A. #1235, EDMONTON, AB:  Enlisting as a member of the Edmonton Fusiliers, Don transferred to the RCAF (R278902) where he was selected for Gunnery Training.  Manning Depot #3 Edmonton.  Gunnery Training at #9 BGS, Mont Joli, PQ where he received his brevet.  Born June 8th, 1917, passed away in Edmonton May 04/03.  He was predeceased by his wife Greta.



EDITOR'S REPORT

On reading latest The Turret I was amazed at the number of Branch reports.

Doncaster; Hereford; Ipswich; Kent; Leeds, London; Manchester; East Sussex; Nottingham; South Wales; York; South Devon; Christchurch New Zealand; Lincoln; Warrington.

Now isn’t that impressive. These chaps are not going to fold quietly. It reminds me of a line from Dylan Thomas’ poem,

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Rage rage against the dying of the light.

Could we not emulate our RAF brothers? At your next Branch luncheon why not get some volunteers (there is that nasty word again) to put together a monthly report on your Branch activities which have been enjoyed or are planned. It would give other Branches ideas and motivation. Sure be well received in our monthly Short Bursts web page. Let us get back to a truly NEWS letter format.

Don’t forget to pass the hat occasionally and send a stipend to the CATP Museum in Brandon and/or Bill Hillman our Web Master. Bill spends a great deal of time taking what Charley and I send him and making it look professional on the World Wide Web, and the Museum pays our monthly Web fee of $35.00.

Send in your anecdotes, comments and WHAT Ifs? Not only Members read this Page, it is also read by the younger generation.

Until September, keep well.

 John and Doreene
John and Doreene Moyles,
Ste. 233 - 1060 Dorothy St.,
Regina, Sask.     S4X 3C5  CANADA
Ph. (306) 949-6112
Regional Meetings


Southern Ontario Chapter
Royal Canadian Legion
Wilson Branch 527
948 Sheppard Avenue West
Downsview,Ontario
We meet the first Wednesday of each month at the Legion hall 1:00 pm. 
No meetings July, August, September.
Contact persons: 
Ken Hill  ~  President ~  905.789.1912
Bill Cockburn  ~  Secretary ~  416.492.1024
Email:  piperbill@rogers.com

Winnipeg
Location - Royal Canadian Legion Br.#4 St. James Legion.
Date - Third Thursday of each month.
Time - Luncheon meeting (provide your own lunch).
Contact Member - Charlie Yule Ph. (204) 254-6264.


Northern Saskatchewan
Location - Lynx Wing Ave. C North, Saskatoon.
Date - Third Monday of the month.
Time - Luncheon meetings.
Contact Member - C.A. "Smokey" Robson  Ph. (306) 374-0547.


Northern Alberta Branch
Location - Norwood Branch 178, 11150 – 82 Street, Edmonton, AB
Date -  The first Thursday of each month.
Time - 12:00 hours.
Contact Members - E. H. "Ted" Hackett (780)962-2904 
or Sven Jensen (780)465-7344.


Southern Alberta
Location - Royal Canadian Legion  #264 
Kensington, Calgary
Date: Second Monday of each month.
Time - 11:30 hours.
Contact Member: Dave Biggs Ph: (403)236-7895
or Doug Penny Ph: (403)242-7048.
Note: 
October meeting time moved to third Monday. 
Also there are no meetings in July and August, however, a Barbecue is usually held  at Larry Robinson's ranch in Okatoks during that time.


British Columbia Branch

Meeting time and local: 2nd Tuesday of each month at 11:30 
Firefighters Social & Athletic Club, 
6515 Bonsor Avenue, 
Burnaby, B.C. V5H 3E8 
Super eating facilities 
Contact person - Dave Sutherland       Ph. 604-431-0085
E-mail distilledwater@shaw.ca


Members across the Country are encouraged to 
send current information regarding 
regular meeting places, dates, and Contact Members, to

John and Doreene Moyles, 
Ste. 233 - 1060 Dorothy St., 
Regina, Sask.     S4X 3C5  CANADA
Ph. (306) 949-6112



Members are requested to send their experiences, articles, anecdotes, pictures, etc., to John Moyles and I will forward them to our Web Master in Brandon. Articles and Last Post items will be deleted from the page each month after the designated Member in each region has had an opportunity to copy the material for their Members. Notices of deceased Members are to be sent to Charlie Yule who is still our 'Keeper of the Rolls'. This is your SHORT BURSTS with no printing or mailing costs, and no deadlines! The Brandon Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum has agreed to host our AG page. However, as it costs the Museum $35.00 per month to maintain the Web Page, it is suggested that each Ex-AG group contribute periodic donations to the Museum to help off-set this expense, and to enhance the work they are doing.  We thank our Web Master, Bill Hillman, for his volunteer time and expertise.

Donations can be made directly to: 

CATP Museum Inc.
Box 3, Grp. 520, RR5,
Brandon, MB   R7A 5Y5
 Phone: (204) 727-2444
 

 
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